Virginia attorney Lenden Eakin sent me the text of the proposed order and gave permission to share it. I’d like run it past the Armed Intelligentsia here at TTAG to get your take.
The simple mechanism of attorney Eakin’s proposal: by defining certain categories of rifles for militia use, the President could strike state and local bans on many of the most popular “assault rifles” and their magazines.
Mr. Eakin also notes: “An Executive Order like this could have a significant impact on the litigation to challenge Assault Weapons Bans currently making its way through the Courts. It would help the challengers.”
FK – Wow. I read about half the comments, there are lots, so I’ll try not to tread any ground already covered except to say:
Here’s what the Second Amendment actually means regardless of how much our domestic blood enemies with white skin, the “Liberal”(commie) trash and other assorted authoritarians lie about it:
The right of the people to overthrow or prevent tyrannical or authoritarian government by force of individually owned arms, purchased or manufactured without government permission or taxes levied or paid, inferior to, equal to or superior to those commonly carried by soldiers, marines, sailors or militia members of any fighting force in the world shall not be brought into question. The right of the people to protect themselves from criminals in government, or any institution that may seek authority over them or from any common street criminal shall not be brought into question. Those elected, hired or appointed public servants who do question this proclamation and/or the people’s natural, most basic right, that all our other rights are based upon, that of self defense, shall be arrested, tried for treason and executed.
There’s no such thing as a good ‘gun law.’ All gun control is propaganda designed to condition the sheeple to accept more control with total civilian disarmament being the final objective thus all gun control is an act of war. All who forward it should be arrested, tried for treason against human Liberty and executed.
The Second Amendment, as the rest of the Bill of Rights, is an acknowledgement of our natural born rights, not a granting. The entire Bill of Rights is about keeping the governments in their place as our servants, not our masters. The Second Amendment is about the common person’s right to own weapons of war so that we can keep the governments in their place by keeping the ‘monopoly on force’ in the hands of the people where it belongs, as in ‘We the people.’ Remember that? It will not be infringed any further and the ‘gun laws’ in existence will be repealed. End of discussion.
The ‘No Rights that aren’t Allowed’ group is part of the problem. Gun Owners of America should have 100 million members. JPFO wanted to DESTROY gun control. To do that we’ll need to DESTROY the amerikan communist insurgency and the globalist elites that fund/control it.
As Churchill said a few years back “I have nothing to offer but blood sweat and tears.” For when the commies by whatever cute name lie their way back into power, and most likely they will, especially since the heavily infiltrated republicrat party will probably not restore our Liberty any more than it did during the Dubya years, but only destroy it in different ways, via ‘The Patriot Act’ and other evil measures, they will not hold back. We will have to choose between killing the evil creatures in large numbers or submitting to them and that will mean getting on your knees and kissing, fondling and sucking whatever they decide to stick in your face and there will be NO LIMIT to that.
My standard answer to such:
Let’s make amerika free again!
Are we ready for the outcome of voting for the lesser of two evils, and eventually getting more evil than we can handle?
Is there a militia force in your county yet? Why not? Are you afraid of the ‘m’ word that’s in the Second Amendment?
Who’s our greatest enemy? Those who build the Trojan Horse or those who open the gate?
Nothing will get better until we stop worrying so much about the fundie ragheads and start rounding up and at the least deporting our real enemies, our domestic enemies.
So who or what is our real enemy? A tiny no. of fundies who manage to kill a few mush heads now and again or our own white home-grown “Liberal”(commie) trash that works relentlessly to disarm and thus fully enslave millions?
What will we do when a commie SCOTUS rules it’s OK for the “Liberal”(commie) trash, our real enemies, to demand we ‘turn them in?’ How many cowards will comply? Those are the questions that matter.
What’s an ‘illegal gun?’ Those two words are nowhere to be found in the Second Amendment. A right applied for is a privilege.
Was the last ‘mass shooting’ site a ‘gun free zone?” Why are commiefornia and others still ‘may issue’ states? Why do we seek ‘permission’ to exercise the most basic right any creature possesses, that of self defense?
If the Marxist mutt and other commie extremists that call themselves ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ tell us to surrender our weapons and thus our most basic right, they’ll find out what blood really is.
The most important ‘private property’ anyone owns is their own life, health, safety, and no one, anywhere, anytime has the ‘right’ to take that from them or deny them their most basic right, that of self defense.
We all get the elected public servants the brain dead sheeple deserve.
I’ll vote for the candidate that will bring the troops home, activate the militias, and re-invade and re-conquer commiefornia and the other commie enclaves on the left and East coasts.
They’re not ‘leftists,’ ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive.’ They’re communists/globalists. They want us disarmed so we can’t kill them when enough finally wake up to the necessity of doing so.
Our Liberty is dying because of our failure to hunt the “Liberal”(commie) and globalist trash to extinction.
Currently, open carry is legal in Kentucky — without a permit.
But if someone wants to carry concealed (or simply put a coat over the firearm) he or she must get government permission.
A dozen states have Constitutional Carry — or concealed carry without the permission slip! And they are among the safest in the nation.
FK – I’m not sure if that form will work for just anyone. Plug in your zip code and see what happens. You should already be on GOA’s email alert list anyway. They’re far superior to the ‘No Rights that aren’t Allowed’ group.
And while you’re at it contact your U.S. Congressmen and tell them to get behind this, for it’s way past due and really only a minuscule fraction of what should be done to the BATF Nazis for their muliti-decade record of tyranny:
FK – There’ll be no gloating on my part until the laws are passed or repealed and the necks are stretched.
Regardless of what Trump proves to be we can NEVER blindly trust what they say during a campaign.
If you think the Marxist mutt or hitlery or their supporters or real masters ‘respect’ you then you’re political children. The most important thing to understand is that they consider us to be livestock and all their actions must be judged by this reality.
Oh good lord have mercy. THEY’RE ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The words ‘illegal gun’ aren’t in the Second Amendment!!!!!!!
“Common sense?” Why the hell are you now sounding like our domestic blood enemies that know full well the evil they are doing by seeking to disarm the common sheeple????
It’s private property. Maybe you should look up what the ‘the left,’ the commies, and their hero Karl Marx think about that.
Trump may very well be a faker who was put in to keep any ‘real’ conservatives out. Maybe that’s why the CFR witch has so far said so little about its loss. There’s no guarantee Trump will be any better than Dubya or any other republicrat. And I haven’t ‘respected the office’ nor the prez in it since before Bush the first. They don’t deserve any respect!!!!!
We need to get more morons fully awake and educated and get them burning congress’s phone lines up and getting them ready for what will be required. I knew what the snake flag meant before the tea party was cool.
WE NEED TO MAKE AMERICA FREE AGAIN!!!! There is no greatness without Liberty. The Bill of Rights is what makes us exceptional.
If Patton had held his tongue they might not have killed him which means Trump better have some good security, if he’s actually sincere.
You two still have a helluva lot to learn about the situation you’re in. Every time the ‘folks‘ that don’t like guns vote they vote to kill you, whether they’re smart enough to know that or not.
My standard answer to this kind of idiocy:
The ‘crime’ issue is a red herring. Even if ‘gun control’ could be proven to lower crime it would still be evil.
All ‘gun control’ is propaganda designed to condition the sheeple to more ‘control’ until full civilian disarmament is achieved. Thus all gun control is an act of war. All who forward it should be arrested, tried for treason against Human Liberty and executed.
When guns are outlawed “Liberal”(commie) trash season begins. The newswhores die first.
FK – So there are no conspiracies are there and every prez we elect means every bit of tripe that spills out of its upper sewer…?
We’ll see won’t we?
Only a child thinks anything a prez candidate says during the quest for the idiot vote means anything. What they say during a campaign means nothing. Their records and affiliations, past and present, are all that matter.
FK – And no one is gonna get beamed up. My longstanding standard answer to such:
Millions will dig the ditch they are told to dig then wet their pants when the machine gun bolts slam home and die stupidly wondering “How did this happen to me?” The tiny minority will have to do what will be required.
It’s time to stop arguing over the culture war. It’s time to stop hunkering down for the apocalypse. It’s time to stop waiting to get beamed up. It’s time to start thinking Normandy.
If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
Update at 9:15 p.m.: Statement from Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward: “After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.”
The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 30 miles southeast of Burns for years.
The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.
We cannot force ourselves or our protection on people who do not want it. Dwight and Steven Hammond have made it clear, through their attorney, that they just want to turn themselves in and serve out their sentence. And that clear statement of their intent should be the end of the discussion on this. No patriot group or individual has the right or the authority to force an armed stand off on this family, or around them, against their wishes. You cannot help someone who does not want your help, and who are not willing and ready to take a hard stand themselves.
This is not a column per se but a point by point response to certain issues, or the issue, that still, after all these years, seems to be missed by many. Watch the video first.
FK – We’ve had the internet for 20 years now. So it would be called ‘willful ignorance.’ There’s nothing more important than monitoring our govt. and the laws we are forced to exist under at the point of a gun. I simply can’t have any respect for those that ignore this reality.
If only the ‘No Rights that aren’t Allowed’ group would kick out its infiltrators and its idiots and do what it should: organize and help train the militias for what will be required.
The NRA was founded by Yankee generals because their conscripts in the war to continue taxing the southern states couldn’t shoot well enough. So in reality it’s been part of the problem from the beginning. It had to be dragged kicking and screaming into this war and still pretends we’ll be able to win it via elections and legislation and that the Second Amendment is the only issue. We could win the gun battle and still lose the war.
The Second Amendment doesn’t mention licensing, taxes, stamps, permission, background checks, I.D. cards, concealed carry, open carry, sporting purposes, hunting furry animals, harvesting food, and on and on. It reads “…shall not be infringed.”
If the NRA had a backbone it would be demanding every candidate publicly declare their stance on repealing all ‘gun laws.’ This is probably the most basic concept they deal with in any campaign. If they don’t ‘get it,’ what our most basic right is: the right to hunt and kill them if they work to enslave us or in our case enslave us further, they don’t have any business being an elected, hired or appointed public servant and they break their oaths as soon as they take them which should bring about a treason trial and a death sentence.
I’ve attended the machine gun shoot in Kentucky many times. In the last year or so one of the vendors said this to me(paraphrase): “This was a good event until they let all the poor people in.”
Those who have several grand invested in a machine gun might not be interested in repealing the NFA. Tough. We’re supposed to be armed equally with any infantry soldier, Marine or militiaman in the world, so we can kill them if we have to. It should be an affordable item to the common man or woman.
800,000 suppressors? That’s some good news. If they’re spread around where they’ll be available to us when enough finally come to grips with what will be required.
The NFA was never ‘needed.’ It was a power grab like all they do. As soon as the war starts they will ‘outlaw’ all those fighting it and their weapons. Does that mean we will then turn them in and go home and sit in front of the big screen and yell at Faux News?
Hunting is fun and a good skill to acquire. The upcoming primate season will be even more interesting because many of them will shoot back. Their ideology killed 200 million in the 20th century alone, so they have proven their pacifism is false. They readily vote to have the cops and soldiers they claim to hate break down their neighbors’ doors and murder them for not surrendering any more of their liberty. Yet so many are in such deep denial about the situation we face here.
Our domestic blood enemies are telling basically the same lies they were 20 years or more ago, with some minor alterations. Nothing short of the ‘compromise’ they’re always whining about, going their way, will do. Without that they are political wallflowers that in reality should be kicked out of the dance, because that is exactly what they plan for those who claim to love human Liberty.
As someone once said, “When you begin to ‘compromise’ on what you already possess, you lose.’ The only thing we should be compromising on is whether the communists, who are neither ‘liberal’ nor ‘progressive’ get one or two broken oars for the leaky rowboat we allow them to row to Europe. The no-compromise part is they GTFO of OUR country because they don’t belong here.
A stepping stone process is not necessarily bad. As many have argued it took years, decades to get to this point and it may take as long to get back to where we should be. That is not, never has been, the issue. The issue that matters is what will we do if they say ‘turn them in,’ or ‘you can’t buy anymore nor introduce children to the shooting sports,’ in so many words and a commie SCOTUS agrees?
Without an organization in place to deal with this, and the NRA’s shysters and lobbyists won’t do the trick, we are doomed, as a nation and as a so-called ‘free people.’ We will be no better than England or Australia or many other nation states. The Bill of Rights is what makes us exceptional. Without the resolve to spill blood if necessary to protect it we are spitting on the graves of the ancestors who fought to provide it.
I have long felt there is no issue more important than this.
According toThe Hill, “the regulations range from new restrictions on high-powered pistols to gun storage requirements” and the issuance of “new rules expanding criteria for people who do not quality for gun ownership.”
Part and parcel to this new “criteria” will be an ATF-implemented ban on gun ownership for anyone “convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence.” Gun Owners of America’s Michael Hammond warns that under this rule the person barred from gun ownership “could be [someone] who spanked his kid, or yelled at his wife, or slapped her husband.”
The new regulations will also include ATF enlargements on mental health-based gun ownership bans. Hammond summed this up by saying, “The Obama administration is trying very hard to disqualify people from owning a gun on the basis that they are seeing a psychologist.” And the NRA pointed out that because most mentally ill persons pose no threat to society, the new regulations will actually become “snares [for] masses of mostly harmless individuals.”
FK – My standard response to such: Act politically but prep for what history shows will have to be done. It’s way past time to prep for what will be required.