Last Sunday violence broke out among protestors at the Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Park in Berkeley, California. According to the Los Angeles Times, “Some anti-fascist protesters, wearing black and with their faces covered, chased or beat Trump supporters and organizers who had scheduled and then canceled the ‘anti-Marxist’ rally, citing concerns over safety.”
The “anti-fascist” protesters—known as Antifa—attacked several people, including a Samoan man and a biracial man who is half-Japanese.
FK – There are two kinds of anarchists: commies posing as anarchists so they can tear down the existing order and install communism, which is ultimate control, and real anarchists, those who truly want ‘no government.’
Strike one.
There’s no real biblical(ancient tribal propaganda) declaration against self defense, though several versions, sub-versions and subversions like to claim so. Regardless of the lifetimes that have been wasted arguing over it, it’s a good thing the Founders, some of which called themselves ‘christian’ saw no problem with killing govt. employees and ridding themselves of ‘god appointed kings.’
Strike two.
There’s no such thing as a ‘right’ to work covertly or overtly to enslave those around you. This applies to all forms of authoritarianism from all times and places.
You’re out.
Stop lying. Or at least do better research.
If libertarians(loosely defined) and ‘christians'(even more loosely defined) and ‘conservatives'(also loosely defined) don’t soon figure out they have a common enemy that must be eradicated all this argument will be a moot point.
You’re not gonna get beamed up child. It’s time to wake up and grow up and take personal responsibility for the world you exist in. The ancient tribal propaganda isn’t gonna save you. It wasn’t even written for you.
The golden rule is a great thing until one realizes many are content being enslaved and will happily vote for everyone to share in their slavery, no matter who or how many they have to kill to make it so.
The purposes of gods and golden rules Barry Bright May 5, 2017
As usual, this got me started:
The problem with the ‘golden rule’ is that most sheeple and many people don’t mind being slaves to one form of authoritarianism or another and thus have no problem voting their neighbors into the same slavery.
‘Everything won’t just ‘work out,’ because we let morons vote. We also let sheeple vote for a check or a job or some other benefit and we let whores enhance revenue and protect the state and its laws for a check and a retirement plan and we let our soldiers go to foreign lands to kill for ‘democracy‘ and power and resources and one insane philosophy or another that says its god should be the one to get to burn billions, including little kids and babies, alive in fire forever.
Things ‘worked out’ in this country for 200+ years as the slaves hoed tobacco and picked cotton and in the Soviet Union where 70 million, more or less, were murdered by human ignorance.
Everyone who ‘believes in’ a divine being is ‘religious,’ can’t have one without the other. Once you say “There’s a divine being,” you usually start asking what it really is and really wants which history shows leads to all kinds of problems.
Not that religion doesn’t have its purposes, the elites have always used it as a way to keep the slaves working while waiting for paradise in the next life.
Still works. Before or after that the priests who usually work for the kings, or vice versa, set about writing down ‘the rules‘ all the plebes have to exist by which of course usually include “Obey the magistrates appointed over you because they were appointed by god,” and “All that happens is ‘god’s will‘ anyway so you may as well show up for work today,” and “Pay your taxes, to Caesar, or whatever, cause all god wants is your soul,” and on and on. Get the idea?
What especially amuses me are those who don’t live any more of a ‘christian’ life than my dog does, who will jump out of their pants to defend a belief system that obviously doesn’t mean much at all to them except as a way to escape eternal punishment or to gain ‘eternal life,’ whatever that might really mean.
I’ve read the ‘new testament‘ a couple times and have been studying it more lately, and those parts of the ancient tribal propaganda I can stand to read, and the more I learn of it the more absurd and disgusting it becomes to me.
It’s really funny how the alleged writers of the new testament couldn’t agree on the genealogy of Jesus or on what happened after his alleged resurrection. How our own governments do the same basic thing the ancient Hebrews or whatever did, call on god or our modern god, democracy, another false god(and don’t miss the comments on that link), in the process of murdering those whose land and resources we seek to obtain or obtain for others.
Most sheeple and people have a very simplistic view of what their chosen ‘belief system’ is or is supposed to be and often can’t cite a single verse of the ancient tribal propaganda of whatever tribe to prove their version, sub-version or subversion one way or another.
The slightly smarter believers can regurgitate a few words of scripture or maybe carry on a real conversation about their theology but still refuse to acknowledge that it is what it is: a collection of writings, fiction, mythology, legend, propaganda, made up or slightly ‘based in real events’(like a modern movie or novel) over a long period of time by people who shared a similar mindset, that of seeking to control others and the world around them and create a more perfect world order under their version, sub-version or subversion of what ‘they’ consider to be ‘right’ or ‘moral.’
I call this the busybody gene. We see it in religious folk and in communists and fascists and in all sorts of other isms.
We do need basic laws and all governments seek to enforce a basic morality, usually for the benefit of the state and those who run it. The elites always consider us to be livestock. There is nothing more important to understand than that.
The purpose of ‘the law‘ should be to keep real criminals out of society’s mainstream. Thus we should have a militia force whose sole purpose is to closely watch/regulate the governments and send elected, hired and appointed malefactors to the work camps when they seek to enslave us. We need police who understand their first allegiance is to human Liberty and our Bills of Rights. We need soldiers who know the same and who will uphold their oaths and put the liberty of the people before corporate profit.
We need to bring the troops home and have them hunt our real enemies who have long been here for our domestic blood enemies with white skin do not simply disagree with us they are waging war on human liberty and our Bills of Rights.
Waking up is hard to do and I sometimes wonder if our life spans weren’t shortened so that too many wouldn’t exist long enough to figure things out.
Long experience has shown me that often all one has to do to be labeled an asshole or ‘know-it-all’ is to act as if one attempts to know anything at all. The average sheeple would rather die than think or take on personal responsibility for the world around it.
And far worse is that rare individual who has the courage to say what will be required. Few on the ‘right’ or the ‘left’ can stomach this, especially since their stomachs are so full nowadays of steak and ice cream and the processed foods that fill our over-stuffed super markets.
When our Founders wrote of the ‘pursuit of happiness’ I think they meant it was an individual choice, not an idea of what happiness should be enforced from above. Those who seek to enforce their idea of ‘happiness’ on all deserve no respect, whether they do it at the point of a gun or at the threat of eternal punishment. Simple truth.
However we do have to ‘educate’ or rather indoctrinate each generation of blank slates, children, in a love of Liberty or they will fall into the same trap humanity has sought to escape since someone invented a ‘new cave order’ by rolling malefactors around in the fire for all to see.
It’s hard to worry about one’s ego when one is sitting in prison for breaking some law written by some authoritarian or another that forbade possessing some thing that they didn’t think we should possess. Whose ‘ego’ is winning then?
Ever notice that a lot of ‘higher thought’ or ‘morality’ is just stuff someone made up according to whatever situation they found themselves in? Nowadays we have shelves full of ‘self help’ books and an internet full of memes that illustrate this beautifully.
What should we already be doing about it so we can live in a free country they lie to us and tell us we exist in, when we so obviously don’t?
What are we but little bits and pieces that we pick up over time? A sad fact is most struggle their entire existences in this world to pick up as little as possible. I’ve long had a natural curiosity, and I developed a natural distrust of anyone who expects me to ‘believe’ what ‘they’ would have me believe simply because they claim it’s ‘right.’
As a teenager that had attended a rural southern Baptist church all my life I got tired of seeing my peers get ‘re-dedicated’ and re-saved by a god they obviously didn’t really understand and would probably never put forth the effort to while the adults were telling me obvious bullshit because to them I was still a child, or in reality, because the average adult is still a child.
I remember one cousin, after we had reached legal age, if I remember correctly, discussing the rural folklore that claimed the cattle in the field bowed down at midnight on Christmas Eve. I don’t know of anyone who ever went to look.
An age old irony of so-called human civilization is that in our efforts to become civilized, if indeed that’s what most even seek, we can’t fathom that the height of civilization is to learn to leave others the hell alone and that would include not forcing others to lie about what they think we are or do.
The real golden rule is to not do to another what they don’t want done to them unless they have proven themselves incapable of existing among others without harming others or their property.
But I expect it’ll be a long time before the tool-using monkeys get smart enough to apply it on a regular basis. Religion is really cultural, in the way ‘the scriptures’ are interpreted and lived in each generation and in each individual. I’ve sat around enough campfires listening to various versions, sub-versions and subversions to know this to be true.
Change is coming, however slowly.
It’ll probably take a few more wars over resources or power or over whose sadistic god will get to burn billions alive in fire forever before they figure it out.
FK – So why do we tolerate this trash, I mean the trash that wants to let the fundies in our country so they can(maybe) get them to vote commie(for a govt. check)????
Even mainstream ‘conservatives’ are finally seeing what I and others have been screaming at them for years:
FK – I’m not sure how much ‘ego’ will have to do with that.
And it’s still one insanity fighting another for the control of the hearts and minds of the human species.
And of course he misses the fact that the ‘first’ civil war was the last war fought over Liberty and the bad guys won and we’ve been reading their history books ever since.
I really like what this guy had to say(from the comment section mentioned above):
Brazen Heist LetThemEatRand Feb 18, 2017 8:42 PM
So then Plutocracy is the right word, a subset of Oligarchy.
The problem must be human nature down to its core. I’m always fascinated with how human psychology changes between the individual and the collective. Man as a collective creature behaves much more irrationally, as the collective IQ drops substantially and man feels part of a group, thus exonerating himself of responsibility and sense. A sort of halo effect. As you say, we have collectively allowed the usurpation itself.
People collectively look for a sheperd. People give up their power too easily in a group. Also self-interest has always been a problem, the “agency problem”. Democracy, like Communism, is proving to be too ideal given our behaviour. We are also far from ready for Anarchism, which is kind of alot like Communism if one really thinks about it, except there is the anarcho-capitalist flavour which I prefer. But I’ll admit, humanity is not yet ready for that either. We can’t even handle Captialism. All these are ideals, but the Hegellian Dialectic has trapped us into a pendulum from one extreme to the other. And here we are swinging yet again. When one gets tired of the predictability of the pendulum, you start trading on it and making money out of it.
Democracy, like religion, is another form of manipulation:
FK – So he’s admitting that the bible is edited to be more salable.
It’s a collection of stories, written by diff. people on a variable theme, over a long period of time, filtered via earlier mythologies, legends, poor histories, individual ideas of what god is or is supposed to be, and on and on.
You don’t need to be a PhD to figure this out.
You can claim it’s the ‘literal,’ or true or whatever inspired ‘word of god’ but when you point at any particular verse and say “Oh no, it means this not that,” you’ve thrown the first statement out the window. But most would rather die than think about this, or think at all really.
The sadistic gambling god in the book of Job was clearly patterned after the ancient tyrannical kings, rulers, now we’d call them dictators, that looked down their noses at their subjects and their slaves and said “Obey me or I’ll torture and/or kill you.”
We’re not supposed to have kings anymore. But 200 years after our founders fought a bloody war to free us from the insane idea of ‘god appointed kings’ we still have the human genes, inclination, whatever that would allow millions to bow down to some demagogue that promises to easily solve their problems for them without them having to lift a finger.
We are still a very primitive species and still exist in a very dark and dangerous age.
When the Founders included ‘no cruel and unusual punishment’ in our Bill of Rights, the document that makes us exceptional, I suppose they were getting uppity. Along with the idea that we have a right to question our self-appointed rulers and kill them when necessary.
Maybe that’s what really got the ‘fallen ones’ kicked out of a human imagined heaven….
FK – You’re still just lying for one of the ‘sides.’
So it’s wrong for the ‘muslims’ to use their ‘religion’ to ‘hate’ jews but it’s OK for ‘jews(however one really defines that) to use their religion, which most of them don’t even follow now, as an excuse to take land that isn’t theirs because they claim some ancient bronze age god gave it to them?
Oh good grief. Why didn’t the European Socialists that founded Israel go buy land, with Zionist money, in Australia where there would be little to no conflict?
Are we willing to kill millions or billions over whose sadistic god gets to burn the vast majority of humans that ever lived alive in fire forever? Are we really this crazy?
Loving thy neighbor can be a great thing, unless they don’t love you and don’t mind being slaves to some govt. or god then they’ll readily vote for you to be enslaved along with them.
But these insanities were created when the sheeple had a Caesar to pay tribute to. We aren’t supposed to have that anymore. But sadly most are too brain dead to understand this.
FK – Back in the 80s when I attended Western Kentucky University they had a policy, if you owed any department a dime, that had to be paid before any other business could be conducted. I knew then they were conditioning us…
