Last Sunday violence broke out among protestors at the Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Park in Berkeley, California. According to the Los Angeles Times, “Some anti-fascist protesters, wearing black and with their faces covered, chased or beat Trump supporters and organizers who had scheduled and then canceled the ‘anti-Marxist’ rally, citing concerns over safety.”
The “anti-fascist” protesters—known as Antifa—attacked several people, including a Samoan man and a biracial man who is half-Japanese.
FK – There are two kinds of anarchists: commies posing as anarchists so they can tear down the existing order and install communism, which is ultimate control, and real anarchists, those who truly want ‘no government.’
There’s no real biblical(ancient tribal propaganda) declaration against self defense, though several versions, sub-versions and subversions like to claim so. Regardless of the lifetimes that have been wasted arguing over it, it’s a good thing the Founders, some of which called themselves ‘christian’ saw no problem with killing govt. employees and ridding themselves of ‘god appointed kings.’
There’s no such thing as a ‘right’ to work covertly or overtly to enslave those around you. This applies to all forms of authoritarianism from all times and places.
Stop lying. Or at least do better research.
If libertarians(loosely defined) and ‘christians'(even more loosely defined) and ‘conservatives'(also loosely defined) don’t soon figure out they have a common enemy that must be eradicated all this argument will be a moot point.
You’re not gonna get beamed up child. It’s time to wake up and grow up and take personal responsibility for the world you exist in. The ancient tribal propaganda isn’t gonna save you. It wasn’t even written for you.
The golden rule is a great thing until one realizes many are content being enslaved and will happily vote for everyone to share in their slavery, no matter who or how many they have to kill to make it so.
FK – The sad fact is the average sheeple is too stupid and primitive to choose liberty. Billions think it’s perfectly OK that their god, that’s ‘their’ god, will burn the vast majority of humans that ever lived alive in fire forever.
We are a very primitive species and still exist in a very dark age. I fear more man-made cataclysm must happen before any real awakening occurs.
FK – Worth is balanced against need, desire and availability and divided or multiplied by human stupidity and/or greed.
In modern amerika the sheeple and people lie so they can keep their big screens, steak and ice cream.
How can he not understand that the amerikan communist insurgency infiltrated the news media, with the help of its corporate/robber baron owners, the schools, universities, entertainment media and on and on along with many to most ‘conservative’ institutions to include the republicrat party?
We have a representative republic, guaranteed to every state, not a democracy.
We have a Bill of Rights that acknowledges rights we are born with, not granted or created by any government.
We vote with the knowledge that voting is the most violent act anyone can participate in because voting is electing someone to hire someone to stick a government gun in our neighbors’ faces and force our version of reality on them at the threat of their very lives.
We stand ready to protect our Liberty and the Liberty of our neighbors, not destroy it, via any version of authoritarianism, of any age or place.
We are prepared with knowledge and force of arms to make war against and kill if necessary those who would destroy our Bill of Rights whether they represent domestic or foreign enemies.
We do not lie to ourselves, our families, our friends, our business associates, our descendants, our enemies, about these things and do not EVER tolerate those who would have us do so.
If the troops were fighting for our freedom they’d all be here.
The purposes of gods and golden rules
Barry Bright May 5, 2017
As usual, this got me started:
The problem with the ‘golden rule’ is that most sheeple and many people don’t mind being slaves to one form of authoritarianism or another and thus have no problem voting their neighbors into the same slavery.
‘Everything’ won’t just ‘work out,’ because we let morons vote. We also let sheeple vote for a check or a job or some other benefit and we let whores enhance revenue and protect the state and its laws for a check and a retirement plan and we let our soldiers go to foreign lands to kill for ‘democracy‘ and power and resources and one insane philosophy or another that says its god should be the one to get to burn billions, including little kids and babies, alive in fire forever.
Things ‘worked out’ in this country for 200+ years as the slaves hoed tobacco and picked cotton and in the Soviet Union where 70 million, more or less, were murdered by human ignorance.
Everyone who ‘believes in’ a divine being is ‘religious,’ can’t have one without the other. Once you say “There’s a divine being,” you usually start asking what it really is and really wants which history shows leads to all kinds of problems.
Not that religion doesn’t have its purposes, the elites have always used it as a way to keep the slaves working while waiting for paradise in the next life.
Still works. Before or after that the priests who usually work for the kings, or vice versa, set about writing down ‘the rules‘ all the plebes have to exist by which of course usually include “Obey the magistrates appointed over you because they were appointed by god,” and “All that happens is ‘god’s will‘ anyway so you may as well show up for work today,” and “Pay your taxes, to Caesar, or whatever, cause all god wants is your soul,” and on and on. Get the idea?
What especially amuses me are those who don’t live any more of a ‘christian’ life than my dog does, who will jump out of their pants to defend a belief system that obviously doesn’t mean much at all to them except as a way to escape eternal punishment or to gain ‘eternal life,’ whatever that might really mean.
I’ve read the ‘new testament‘ a couple times and have been studying it more lately, and those parts of the ancient tribal propaganda I can stand to read, and the more I learn of it the more absurd and disgusting it becomes to me.
It’s really funny how the alleged writers of the new testament couldn’t agree on the genealogy of Jesus or on what happened after his alleged resurrection. How our own governments do the same basic thing the ancient Hebrews or whatever did, call on god or our modern god, democracy, another false god(and don’t miss the comments on that link), in the process of murdering those whose land and resources we seek to obtain or obtain for others.
Most sheeple and people have a very simplistic view of what their chosen ‘belief system’ is or is supposed to be and often can’t cite a single verse of the ancient tribal propaganda of whatever tribe to prove their version, sub-version or subversion one way or another.
The slightly smarter believers can regurgitate a few words of scripture or maybe carry on a real conversation about their theology but still refuse to acknowledge that it is what it is: a collection of writings, fiction, mythology, legend, propaganda, made up or slightly ‘based in real events’(like a modern movie or novel) over a long period of time by people who shared a similar mindset, that of seeking to control others and the world around them and create a more perfect world order under their version, sub-version or subversion of what ‘they’ consider to be ‘right’ or ‘moral.’
I call this the busybody gene. We see it in religious folk and in communists and fascists and in all sorts of other isms.
We do need basic laws and all governments seek to enforce a basic morality, usually for the benefit of the state and those who run it. The elites always consider us to be livestock. There is nothing more important to understand than that.
The purpose of ‘the law‘ should be to keep real criminals out of society’s mainstream. Thus we should have a militia force whose sole purpose is to closely watch/regulate the governments and send elected, hired and appointed malefactors to the work camps when they seek to enslave us. We need police who understand their first allegiance is to human Liberty and our Bills of Rights. We need soldiers who know the same and who will uphold their oaths and put the liberty of the people before corporate profit.
We need to bring the troops home and have them hunt our real enemies who have long been here for our domestic blood enemies with white skin do not simply disagree with us they are waging war on human liberty and our Bills of Rights.
Waking up is hard to do and I sometimes wonder if our life spans weren’t shortened so that too many wouldn’t exist long enough to figure things out.
Long experience has shown me that often all one has to do to be labeled an asshole or ‘know-it-all’ is to act as if one attempts to know anything at all. The average sheeple would rather die than think or take on personal responsibility for the world around it.
And far worse is that rare individual who has the courage to say what will be required. Few on the ‘right’ or the ‘left’ can stomach this, especially since their stomachs are so full nowadays of steak and ice cream and the processed foods that fill our over-stuffed super markets.
When our Founders wrote of the ‘pursuit of happiness’ I think they meant it was an individual choice, not an idea of what happiness should be enforced from above. Those who seek to enforce their idea of ‘happiness’ on all deserve no respect, whether they do it at the point of a gun or at the threat of eternal punishment. Simple truth.
However we do have to ‘educate’ or rather indoctrinate each generation of blank slates, children, in a love of Liberty or they will fall into the same trap humanity has sought to escape since someone invented a ‘new cave order’ by rolling malefactors around in the fire for all to see.
It’s hard to worry about one’s ego when one is sitting in prison for breaking some law written by some authoritarian or another that forbade possessing some thing that they didn’t think we should possess. Whose ‘ego’ is winning then?
Ever notice that a lot of ‘higher thought’ or ‘morality’ is just stuff someone made up according to whatever situation they found themselves in? Nowadays we have shelves full of ‘self help’ books and an internet full of memes that illustrate this beautifully.
What should we already be doing about it so we can live in a free country they lie to us and tell us we exist in, when we so obviously don’t?
What are we but little bits and pieces that we pick up over time? A sad fact is most struggle their entire existences in this world to pick up as little as possible. I’ve long had a natural curiosity, and I developed a natural distrust of anyone who expects me to ‘believe’ what ‘they’ would have me believe simply because they claim it’s ‘right.’
As a teenager that had attended a rural southern Baptist church all my life I got tired of seeing my peers get ‘re-dedicated’ and re-saved by a god they obviously didn’t really understand and would probably never put forth the effort to while the adults were telling me obvious bullshit because to them I was still a child, or in reality, because the average adult is still a child.
I remember one cousin, after we had reached legal age, if I remember correctly, discussing the rural folklore that claimed the cattle in the field bowed down at midnight on Christmas Eve. I don’t know of anyone who ever went to look.
An age old irony of so-called human civilization is that in our efforts to become civilized, if indeed that’s what most even seek, we can’t fathom that the height of civilization is to learn to leave others the hell alone and that would include not forcing others to lie about what they think we are or do.
The real golden rule is to not do to another what they don’t want done to them unless they have proven themselves incapable of existing among others without harming others or their property.
But I expect it’ll be a long time before the tool-using monkeys get smart enough to apply it on a regular basis. Religion is really cultural, in the way ‘the scriptures’ are interpreted and lived in each generation and in each individual. I’ve sat around enough campfires listening to various versions, sub-versions and subversions to know this to be true.
Change is coming, however slowly.
It’ll probably take a few more wars over resources or power or over whose sadistic god will get to burn billions alive in fire forever before they figure it out.
FK – I’m not sure how much ‘ego’ will have to do with that.
And it’s still one insanity fighting another for the control of the hearts and minds of the human species.
And of course he misses the fact that the ‘first’ civil war was the last war fought over Liberty and the bad guys won and we’ve been reading their history books ever since.
I really like what this guy had to say(from the comment section mentioned above):
Brazen Heist LetThemEatRand Feb 18, 2017 8:42 PM
So then Plutocracy is the right word, a subset of Oligarchy.
The problem must be human nature down to its core. I’m always fascinated with how human psychology changes between the individual and the collective. Man as a collective creature behaves much more irrationally, as the collective IQ drops substantially and man feels part of a group, thus exonerating himself of responsibility and sense. A sort of halo effect. As you say, we have collectively allowed the usurpation itself.
People collectively look for a sheperd. People give up their power too easily in a group. Also self-interest has always been a problem, the “agency problem”. Democracy, like Communism, is proving to be too ideal given our behaviour. We are also far from ready for Anarchism, which is kind of alot like Communism if one really thinks about it, except there is the anarcho-capitalist flavour which I prefer. But I’ll admit, humanity is not yet ready for that either. We can’t even handle Captialism. All these are ideals, but the Hegellian Dialectic has trapped us into a pendulum from one extreme to the other. And here we are swinging yet again. When one gets tired of the predictability of the pendulum, you start trading on it and making money out of it.
Democracy, like religion, is another form of manipulation:
FK – Disagreeing with the court is not necessarily ‘irrelevant.’ We the People are the ultimate arbiters of our rights, not a row of black-robed shysters whose decisions are often no less affected by their own values, prejudices, authoritarian leanings, than anyone else.
As is often noted the marriage license was brought about in part to prevent interracial marriage. So what had once been a power of the church became a privilege granted after the payment of a fee or passing of some test or another.
You need to do a search on the ‘fire in the theater’ thing. It’s not quite that simple.
I’ve often heard that ‘christians’ are ‘in the world’ but not ‘of the world.’ Answering first to any govt. is being ‘of the world.’ Taking on a public or govt. job that requires one do be ‘of the world’ such as supporting laws they find incompatible with their version, sub-version or subversion is going against this, one of their most basic commandments.
Where does all this end? I don’t expect to be in this realm long enough to see that outcome. Millions have already died in such wars. We may be headed for another one.
Oh that’s funny. The Kentucky Legislature voting to impeach or convict her. Not in this state. Even the commiecrats aren’t that stupid. It would probably hand the Kentucky House over to the RINOS in the next election cycle and and the already increasing enrollment for Republican voters would skyrocket.
Well, I don’t know, considering the stupidity of the commiecrat House Leadership it might be a possibility.
And that would be ‘God’s opinion’ to the average believer. Something many non-believers don’t seem to get. I was raised in that ignorance and have sat around several campfires listening to many versions, sub-versions and subversions. The mindset is not one of true ‘free will’ but slavery to ancient tribal propaganda and to a god that was clearly patterned after ancient tyrannical kings who looked down their noses at their subjects and said “Be good subjects(slaves, servants) or I’ll torture and/or kill you.
The human mind is still a long way from being free of the tyrannies of the past. That’s why billions have no problem with the concept that their god, that’s ‘their god’ will burn the vast majority of humans that ever existed alive in fire forever. Maybe this inclination was inserted into our DNA for some reason. I can’t imagine why.
FK – Some version of ‘libertarianism’ may be ‘the future.’ We can only hope. But those who vote that way will do so with no real understanding of it, like most churchgoers who are vaguely ignorant of their own religion.
If it ever becomes ‘cool’ like tattoos, it will be infiltrated and ruined like everything else in history, and will exist for centuries in some sort of limbo until ‘real whatevers’ get loud and proud and angry and dedicated enough to run that horse out of the shed and install a new one… and the process will start over. That’s just how it works.
FK – Only when trash like this ‘social worker’ starts getting turned into tree food will our country begin to see the light of Liberty.
Another reason we so desperately need a militia in every county in this country. But then the ‘conservatives’ and ‘libertarians’ are all too frightened of the ‘m’ word in the Second Amendment to actually stand up and do what will be required to fix this mess if it can be fixed. Many of them would rather sit on their asses and wait for the world to end.
FK – Don’t miss the comments on that one. Some are very instructive.
From skimming over a lot of this there seems to be some real issues that will have to be worked out. As long as the kids are healthy and ‘educated,’ however one chooses to define that, they should be left the hell alone. Though I wouldn’t like having to weather the past two Kentucky winters we’ve had, the coldest I remember in my lifetime, in such conditions, there are humans who endure worse. Simple fact.
FK – But the same indoctrination could be given to government schooled kids and most certainly to kids who attend ‘christian’ or ‘muslim’ schools. If the author is ‘bisexual’ then he/she is probably suffering from some birth defect or mental illness. Simple fact. But then this is not a pretty world and some don’t like being shoved into other peoples’ molds.
The human race has a lot of growing up to do and I don’t expect to be in this realm long enough to see that process finished.
An interesting link from one of the comment sections:
FK – Though I don’t see how that applies to the situation at hand. CPS seems to operate in their own sphere, outside the Bill of Rights.
What’s amazing about all this is these parents, for whatever faults they may have, are putting far more thought into their time in this world than the average dumbass ever will, with their ‘normal’ home, mortgage, big screen weaponvision, bass boat, whatever. Simple fact. Most of their kids may grow up to be ‘normal,’ taxpaying sheep, but maybe one or two of them won’t, and those are the kind of people who make the world a better place, or at least a more interesting place.
FK – Who’s doing this? The ragheads in their governments? No. The commie globalists by whatever cute names they call themselves are doing this. They will do it here. They are doing it here. Who are our real enemies? They have white skin and were born here. They’re not hiding in a cave on the other side of the world. Keep telling yourself there’s no conspiracy.
We’re told that it’s a place of utter anguish and torment. An eternal destination for those who turn their backs on God and reject the Ten Commandments. Imagine the most painful, the most degrading, the most unspeakable torture you can imagine, multiply it by a thousand, and it probably will not come close to the reality of hell.
Flesh-eating demons, eternal fire, the stench of sulfur…
There’s no sleeping in hell. No rest or reprieve from continuous suffering and agony. And it lasts forever.
So who goes to hell?
FK – How disgusting. Those who most deserve hell are those who think it’s OK there is such a place. I’d rather go to hell than spend eternity with a bunch of brain dead sheep who think it’s fun to stand around praising some sadistic asshole who made billions of people knowing they would be tortured forever after this less than a blink of an existence, a sadistic asshole that was clearly patterned after the ancient tyrannical kings who looked down their noses at their subjects and declared “Be good little slaves and subjects or I’ll torture and kill you.”
We are still a very primitive species. Our Founding Fathers, some of whom were some version of ‘christian’ at least codified in the Bill of Rights the notion of ‘cruel and unusual punishment’ though it will clearly be multiple generations before the human race is mature enough to understand what that means.
How many millions or billions more will die in religious wars before that happens? Sorry, wars aren’t really religious, greedy narcissistic leaders simply use the ancient manipulations to dupe their ignorant masses into thinking they’re fighting for god when the real goal is power and filthy lucre. It’s always been that way and clearly will be for some time to come.
Sorry, I forgot, we’re all gonna get beamed up soon even though we send our kids to the government schools so they can get ‘good jobs’ while they’re here in Satan’s world yet we can’t be bothered to try to affect the laws they’ll exist under because they’ll get beamed up before it matters.
And of course it’s OK if that sadistic asshole of a god burns billions of little kids and teenagers alive in fire forever because it’s all part of its ‘plan.’ And you’ll all stand around singing praises to it while you watch all the infants the catholic church didn’t sprinkle in time and all the 8-year-olds that weren’t cajoled or scared into ‘gettin’ saved’ in time, writhe in fire.
Huh? The human race is insane. I’ve seen/heard it all my life and it gets more disgusting every day…
FK – But they’re not truly ‘open-minded.’ That’s the problem. Blind faith and willful ignorance is easier.
The bible is clearly a lot of different crap made up by a lot of different ‘humans'(loosely defined) over time that was their idea of what god/religion/human nature/society/human behavior, is/should be/or could be. Most are too mal educated or not educated enough to grasp this.
Chosen People –The term “Chosen People” typically refers to the Hebrew Bible and the ugly idea that God has given certain tribes a Promised Land (even though it is already occupied by other people). But in reality many sects endorse some version of this concept. The New Testament identifies Christians as the chosen ones. Calvinists talk about “God’s elect,” believing that they themselves are the special few who were chosen before the beginning of time. Jehovah’s witnesses believe that 144,000 souls will get a special place in the afterlife. In many cultures certain privileged and powerful bloodlines were thought to be descended directly from gods (in contrast to everyone else).
Religious sects are inherently tribal and divisive because they compete by making mutually exclusive truth claims and by promising blessings or afterlife rewards that no competing sect can offer. “Gang symbols” like special haircuts, attire, hand signals and jargon differentiate insiders from outsiders and subtly (or not so subtly) convey to both that insiders are inherently superior.
FK – It’s a commie site, two commie sites to be exact so I can’t agree with all of this but much of it does make sense. Blind faith is what got us into this mess and it won’t get us out.
The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. Other animals fight for territory or food; but, uniquely in the animal kingdom, human beings fight for their ‘beliefs.’ The reason is that beliefs guide behavior, which has evolutionary importance among human beings. But at a time when our behavior may well lead us to extinction, I see no reason to assume we have any awareness at all. We are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view of our species is just a self-congratulatory delusion. – Michael Crichton